1. Clear out temporary internet files, cookies, etc. 2. Try temporarily changing your home page (can where you come FROM affect how a page is rendered?) 3. Check the settings pictured here...
That last one, "Use Microsoft compatibility lists"... Hmmm.....
If that turns out to be the solution, then I can only say that the more you divorce yourself from Microsoft, the better things get. But we already knew that.
Still no go. As for the degradation theory, I can't say that is the problem. Maybe it's a regional thing. I've been experiencing issues with IE-11 ever since I've upgraded to it on my Windows 7 system when it first came out. Before that time, I never really looked seriously at other browsers other than to try them out. I still mostly use IE for my day to day stuff except when I run into problems viewing or using a particular website. The F12 and adjust trick does work in a pinch, but it's a nuisance at the same time. I'm still looking for a solution, but haven't come up with a good one yet. In the meantime, thanks for trying.
Your IE inappropriately tries to render web pages in a wrong (old) browser emulation mode.
Somehow the (let's call it a bug) is triggered on your systems, but not on mine.
You've seen it with the very same operating systems I've not seen it with.
You've tried deleting cookies and cache files to no avail.
A full reset on your systems doesn't clear it up, implying it's something I've done to make IE work better.
You've tried matching my settings to no avail.
I don't think it's things I've blocked that you haven't, because nothing is actually blocked on that Workopolis site.
Ideas that could still have possible merit...
It could be regional (or because of regional settings) I suppose, but that seems like kind of a stretch.
It could be some other setting I've changed that you haven't, though I'm pretty good at remembering such things.
It could be something I'm blocking that you're not.
It could be because of the Classic Shell or Quero or Aero Glass components I have installed (i.e. it could be whatever's still different between our add-on stable). But add-ons don't usually make things work better.
Double check that 11 is listed as the default for you (though I'm unaware of how that could be changed):
I really am running short on ideas. If I had the two systems side by side I suppose I'd probably poke around and do things like compare registries, compare installed files, and anything else I could turn up that's different between them.
-Noel
Author of the "How to Configure the 'To Work' Options" series of Windows books. Not feeling enough love to do one for Windows 10.
I've been trying to do this on every computer in the house and I've actually found one where the website allows me log-in without issues. It's a Win7, 64-Bit laptop that I've setup for my other half. The thing about this computer is it originally had Windows Vista on it before I did the in-place upgrade to Windows 7. The only other thing I've done special to this computer was to completely shut-off updating, but manually updating it as needed because of the Windows 10 pushiness. At least I now have a computer to compare notes to.
As for the other computers that have failed in my household, there was a tablet here running Windows 8.1, a desktop running Windows 7, my own multi-booting computer with Windows 10 x 2, 7, XP plus Linux. I did setup the Windows 7 partition to be non-updating when I rebuilt my computer, but because of the issues I've had with IE-11, I've installed IE-10 on it which has been working fine for me. Now, I'm curious to see what happens to it by upgrading it to IE-11.
Welp. I took the plunge and updated my Windows 7 to run IE-11.
Success! I no longer get the you need to upgrade browser error on www.workopolis.com or failure in loading the WWW.CPR.ca webpage.
I did take the precaution of not letting IE do it's automatic configuration thing on first launch and I still have my Win7 system set for no updating.
Now, if we could only get Ami to get her hind end back here and finish playing around with this particular web site so it can run better with IE and other browsers! . . . . .
I'd really love to know what specific setting is causing that.
I guess I've been lucky to have configured things for more deterministic operation somehow. I can see how people would dislike IE if it does that kind of thing for them (or Windows in general for not behaving).
You mentioned having most Add-ons disabled... Did you ever confirm an exact match of that list with mine or the system you have that works?
-Noel
Author of the "How to Configure the 'To Work' Options" series of Windows books. Not feeling enough love to do one for Windows 10.
Okay, let's try this again. Here are the side by side comparisons of my untouched, post upgrade, Windows 7 IE-11 setting to yours. There are some differences as to what's available for settings between us. I'll need to do some experimenting to see what is causing the issue in my other IE-11 setups as I would like to know too. My large list of Add-Ons are all carry-overs from upgrading and have not been touched in their settings either.
It funny how the simplest things can get a person!
After spending so much time in trying to re-adjust the Internet Options settings from the Control Panel for IE to solve the problem, it all boils down to what you do with the initial pop up upon first running of Internet Explorer 11. It turns out that if you select Automatic Configuration on first run, "Display intranet sites in Compatibility View" will be automatically Enabled. To disable it, you need to go to Tools > Compatibility View Settings from the Menu Bar in IE-11.
As strange as it may seem, doing this corrected the problem on all my computers that were exhibiting the problem. Both of my Windows 10 partitions on my system along with the 64-Bit Windows 7 Standalone and the Windows 8.1 Tablet are all good now. Going through the Internet Options settings and re-adjusting them one at a time when I found a difference did not work. I was clearing the cache and rebooting where necessary as I was doing this. Resetting the Advanced and Security settings back to default did not work either. That's when I started looking elsewhere and came up with this.
The funnier thing is I've just double checked my own Windows 7 system that I've just upgraded to IE-11 where is working fine even though the "Display Intranet sites in Compatibility View" setting is still checked on.
I know I've read a thread someplace from our friend Mike over here indicating that Compatibility View in IE-11 was broken. I've seen threads posted elsewhere indicating the same sort of thing such as this one: Internet Explorer 11 Compatibility View debacle
Or, how about this one regarding another problem that's been around for quite some time that Microsoft does not appear to be interested in fixing. In fact, the problem listed here seems to have only gotten worse in Windows 10 as it is now permeating into other parts of the UI. Disappearing scroll bar on websites
What I can't get is why, on the various systems I've installed here (let's see, 2 x Win 7, 2 x Win 8.1, 2 x Win 10 at the moment) I've never had the problem show up. IE11 just works.
Clearly there's something I regularly do (or don't do) that affects this.
I know I spin through all the settings early on with any new install to ensure that no ActiveX can be run in the Internet zone and scripts are limited in what they can do.
Other than that, I tweak a lot of stuff Windows-wide - for example I NEVER allow it to do SmartScreen - but nothing else that I can think of ought to be affecting how IE runs really.
-Noel
Author of the "How to Configure the 'To Work' Options" series of Windows books. Not feeling enough love to do one for Windows 10.
Or, how about this one regarding another problem that's been around for quite some time that Microsoft does not appear to be interested in fixing. In fact, the problem listed here seems to have only gotten worse in Windows 10 as it is now permeating into other parts of the UI. Disappearing scroll bar on websites
The disappearing scroll bar is by design. A design that really sucks, but we know they're quite capable of that.
It happens in Office 365 (2013) as well.
Here is a thread where I complained about it and a Microsoft minion told me it's on purpose.
I believe someone at Microsoft once said "the UI needs to disappear" and the programmers took it literally. We wouldn't want the poor users to be cognitively overloaded by the content. We want them distracted by the ads.
I'm going to try that CSS file workaround listed. That sounds good. I already use one that makes the scroll bar more visible), so now I have:
html {scrollbar-base-color: darkgray;} @-ms-viewport {width:auto!important}
<Rick> Good video. It's almost hard to believe that at one time Windows 98 was the resource hog, but even then, it still ran circles around what Windows 10 can do on today's modern hardware and look a heck of alot better doing it.
May 25, 2021 22:55:12 GMT -6
<Rick> As stated elsewhere, So much for the launch of Windows 11, "The Great Crash." Myself, I had a hard time getting into the site listed above, when I did get in, the video was partly done and then it crashed. There has been many other reports of crashing.
Jun 24, 2021 9:52:33 GMT -6
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<Rick> I see Microsoft has been very quick to pull down reports of site crashing regarding the Launch of Windows 11 on the Microsoft Insiders forum.
Jun 24, 2021 9:57:31 GMT -6
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<Rick> The rebroadcast is working okay.
Jun 24, 2021 11:00:25 GMT -6
<Rick> With reports of people being able to install the dev-edition of Windows 11 on machines not meeting spec, I thought I would give it a what-the-heck try. Lucky me, I'm caught in the downloading, doesn't meet spec, clearing, re-downloading loop on my machine!
Jul 2, 2021 7:08:46 GMT -6
<Rick> I've recently purchased a license for ArcaOS from www.arcanoae.com/ to play with. First impressions, it's still OS/2, but it now has a Linux twist to it.
Jul 2, 2021 7:32:53 GMT -6
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<dozrguy> laptop shit out and am stuck buying a new one. os win11 as fucked as win10 was?
Oct 2, 2021 12:56:10 GMT -6
<Rick> Let's see ..., my impression of Windows 11 is that it is a spruced up version of Windows 10 requiring a 64-bit processor plus a piece of security hardware that is less than 4 years old in order for it to run.
Oct 4, 2021 18:25:49 GMT -6
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<Rick> On the plus side, Microsoft is supposed to be supporting Windows 10 for some time to come for those of us still using systems with I7 or older processors.
Oct 4, 2021 18:44:35 GMT -6
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<dozrguy> i tried installing win10 om the 'shitout' pc this morning usung media creation. EPIC FAIL! went into an endless bootloop. win7 reinstalled just fine
Oct 21, 2021 11:23:38 GMT -6
<dozrguy> STILL so much bullshit and so little time for the kiddie ideas from the hill. My new laptop (MSI GE 11-UH461) would be an awesome "10" machine but because of Winblows I can only give it a "2"......wasted $3500
Oct 27, 2021 9:36:47 GMT -6
<Rick> Hello. Just checking in.
Mar 17, 2022 10:46:54 GMT -6
<isidroco> Each new w10 update adds >100000 useless files to \Windows\Servicing\LCU\Package_for_RollupFix... folders. Even in a SSD takes time to delete that stuff. In each version they manage to worsen stuff.
Mar 27, 2022 16:14:51 GMT -6
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<dozerguy> still traffic here?
Oct 9, 2022 17:32:44 GMT -6
<Rick> No, there does not seem to be very much traffic these days. I still check in from time to time.
Oct 9, 2022 20:08:58 GMT -6