Post by stefansart on Oct 28, 2015 11:26:15 GMT -6
With this thread (if i understood the info right about what i can do here) i want You to post ever weekly usage statistics about operatingsystems here.
I don't mind what source You use, i just wanna see how it works out. I am curious.
I predict Win 10 total adoption at around 12% by the end of the year. Microsoft is using up what remains of its reputation.
The slope of Win 10 adoption is now more shallow than that of Win 7 at the same amount of time after initial release, and it has been like this for about 6 weeks. Remember that Win 7 cost real money.
-Noel
Author of the "How to Configure the 'To Work' Options" series of Windows books. Not feeling enough love to do one for Windows 10.
With this thread (if i understood the info right about what i can do here) i want You to post ever weekly usage statistics about operatingsystems here.
I don't mind what source You use, i just wanna see how it works out. I am curious.
Here you go:
Looks like a lot of Windows 8.1 users reverted, and adoption there has been slow ever since. Sadly, it looks like Windows 7 is getting heavily targeted. Other rising stars: Chrome OS, Linux, and Mac OS. Not surprising.
Last Edit: Oct 29, 2015 23:26:18 GMT -6 by Techie007
Microsoft, is Windows 10 the best you could do? Really? After promising to listen to our feedback, what a letdown!
Looks like Microsoft Edge isn't doing too well with a flat growth rate and just over 1% market share despite Windows 10's 10% market share. Considering its poor quality, I guess that doesn't surprise any of us. Meanwhile, Chrome is continuing its hostile takeover of the world:
Microsoft, is Windows 10 the best you could do? Really? After promising to listen to our feedback, what a letdown!
Regarding Edge, on the Win10 forums, I've been answering quite a few posts on how to set I.E and other programs as default. Seems that not very many people are liking the app version offerings that Microsoft is setting as the defaults.
Bob, just sign up for an account here. Give a dummy eMail if you need. Trust us, we only want a LITTLE of your personal stuff (SSN, first born child, parts of your anatomy, your children's children's inheritance, sworn allegiance forever to the haters/tin-foil hats club, and a kitten).
Then you can have all the privileges to post images thereunto appertaining.
FYI, the last week in those stats is always skewed a bit. I think Win 7 is still declining and Win 10 rising. A large majority of the world isn't as informed as we are, nor as skilled in avoiding what they feel is inevitable.
Microsoft has certainly NOT shown us all their cards yet. They can, for example, sooner or later blast us off the planet by simply deactivating our older Windows installations. I'm sure the code is already in place. They're holding the spoon on the grenade, all we have to do is block them from continuing to hold it, then boom!
And it will be justifed in not one but several ways:
1. We will have become a security threat to the rest of the "community" by not updating our systems.
2. We will have violated the ever shifting terms of service by not allowing essential communications to keep their cloud healthy.
3. Oops, we made a mistake.
etc.
Don't even think they won't try all these things and almost certainly some we haven't thought of.
It has been awhile, since I last posted an update. Here are the latest marketshare statistics:
A couple things are obvious: Microsoft is continuing to aggressively target Windows 7 with GWX, possibly even still automatically upgrading some PCs according to a couple comments I randomly came across on the web recently. Just last week, it looks like Microsoft may have resumed pressure on Windows 8.1 users to upgrade, which may allow Windows 10 to pass Windows 8.1 as we go into 2016. Meanwhile, Apple Mac OS is continuing to grow in popularity, along with some uncategorized OSes (maybe various flavors of Linux?), and gasp, Windows Vista.
Google Chrome is continuing to take over the world one computer at a time, something that bothers me. I have found numerous customers back on Chrome, along with viruses for me to remove from their computers. It appears that Google's malicious advertisements for their web browser on the Google/Gmail homepage are being effective, as most of these people were unaware that they had switched back, or indicated that they were told it would be better or would help them get to Google faster. I guess I have to start firewalling Chrome to stop this craziness. I wish I could block the annoying messages from Firefox though. Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer appear to be in a dance for superiority, while Safari is rising in popularity (mirroring the slow but steady migration to Macs also seen in the OS market share). Meanwhile Microsoft Edge languishes in a well deserved 1.5%, showing that most Windows 10 upgradees are manually restoring Chrome as their default web browser. Smart move. The recent slight uptick for Edge appears to reflect new holiday computer sales.
Last Edit: Dec 11, 2015 16:45:56 GMT -6 by Techie007
Microsoft, is Windows 10 the best you could do? Really? After promising to listen to our feedback, what a letdown!
Anybody have stats on e-mail clients? I've just got a notice from MS that they are about to mess-up outlook.com and that some e-mail clients may not work properly anymore as indicated in the following letter.
Outlook.com Important information about your email service Dear user, In a few weeks, we will be making some changes to our email services that might impact your @outlook.com, @hotmail, @live, or @msn email account. Those changes will prevent your email from being delivered to the Windows Live Mail 2012 application you use. In order to continue using Windows Live Mail 2012 to send and receive email for your account, you need to install the latest update published here. If you use Windows Live Mail 2012 on Windows 8, Windows 8.1 or Windows 10, we recommend that you switch to the built in Mail app in Windows to stay connected and get the latest feature updates on Windows 8, Windows 8.1, and Windows 10. Windows Live Essentials 2009 and 2011 are not supported anymore, and you will need to update to Windows 8/8.1 or Windows 10 and use the Mail app, or use www.outlook.com. To learn more about the Mail app, please click here. We also recommend all Windows Live mail users on Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 to upgrade to Windows 10 and use the built in Mail application to stay connected and get the latest feature updates. We suggest saving this email so you can refer to it later. Thanks for your understanding and continued use. Sincerely, The Outlook team
Windows 10 saw a slight boost from the Thanksgiving holiday, and a significant boost from the Christmas holiday—just enough to allow it to do the inevitable before the 2015 was over: Windows 10 has now passed Windows 8.1 as Microsoft's 2nd most popular operating system. Surprisingly, Windows 8.0 and Vista both saw a slight boost over the holidays. Apple is continuing to build marketshare (although it ended the year on a downturn). But most wondrous of all is "Other", which is continuing to march upwards. I contacted StatCounter in an attempt to figure out what's not getting identified, but they never responded. I wonder what's hiding in there.
Looks like Chrome has plateaued for the time being. Edge saw only a very slight boost over the Christmas holiday (haha), and Safari is continuing to gradually rise.
Last Edit: Jan 7, 2016 1:28:46 GMT -6 by Techie007
Microsoft, is Windows 10 the best you could do? Really? After promising to listen to our feedback, what a letdown!
It has been three months since my last statistical update. Here's how things are now:
Windows 10 has been gaining market share linearly. We can see a slight boost at the end where Microsoft started pushing it out more aggressively via GWX a little over a month ago. Interestingly, Windows 8.0 has seen a slight boost. That boost seems to coincide with a fall of Other, so it may simply be a statistical error. Looks like it won't be long before Windows 8.1 falls below Mac OS, leaving Windows 7 and 10 the only more popular OSes.
Google Chrome is continuing to do what it does best—taking over the world. However, most of that market share is coming at Internet Explorer's expense. Meanwhile, Microsoft Edge is only making a fraction of Internet Explorer's losses back. What do I see here? People install Windows 10, can't find Internet Explorer, hate Microsoft Edge, and install Google Chrome. Yep. At least Firefox is mostly holding steady and is now solidly #2. And we have to remember that people likely to use Firefox tend to be more privacy oriented and would have a much higher percentage of ad/tracker blockers in place, which would significantly deflate its apparent market share to trackers like StatCounter.
Microsoft, is Windows 10 the best you could do? Really? After promising to listen to our feedback, what a letdown!
Thanks for posting those stats. I recall predicting the adoption rate of Windows 10 would be linear, barring unforeseen major surprises. If the angle is still the same - and it looks like it is - Win 10 would overtake Win 7 in the 2nd quarter of 2017.
All that said...
It occurred to me that with such stats influencing the world, Microsoft could be gaming those stats. They DO control Windows 8.1 and older, too, right? Imagine a "security" change that would cause a browser to report something different to servers just occasionally... Sounds far out, but from my perspective it's no less likely than Microsoft acting like malware with regard to pushing out GWX. And hey, there WAS an IE update that purported to improve the transition to Windows 10, right? They're so vague they could just be sending OS ID values that imply people are running Windows 10 who actually aren't.
Don't kid yourself, this kind of stuff means millions of dollars to executives whose income is bolstered by Wall Street.
-Noel
P.S., Anyone here an Asimov fan? Remember Psychohistory? The ability to predict exactly what large masses of humans would do over time?
"There was no particular motivation for U.S. consumers to purchase PCs in the first quarter of 2016." While 270 million users are running Windows 10 across a slew of machine types, including desktops, notebooks, tablets, 2-in-1s, smartphones, Xbox Ones, and others, that doesn’t necessarily mean that Microsoft is in total grabbing a larger share of a growing market.
Since the OS has clearly continued to add no value, the only possible way the numbers can continue climbing is if they consider everyone who's ever been bitten by the GWX malware or (can you believe we did it) installed Windows 10 on purpose a Windows 10 user.
It's even possible that "Windows 10 on one billion devices" could (quite accurately) include the meaning "downloaded into the hidden $Windows.~BT folder". It literally IS "on" the device. "Actively used" could mean "spends time, effort, and money in an ongoing way to deal with Win 10 issues (such as blocking its installation)".
I "actively use" it on one or several virtual machines to research whether it can be made better. That doesn't mean I rely on it for anything. Only a fool would do that.
-Noel
Author of the "How to Configure the 'To Work' Options" series of Windows books. Not feeling enough love to do one for Windows 10.
There's also the FUD believing IT people who run on the paranoid upgrade treadmill, who are pushing win tentanic in the SMB and larger enterprise
have a look at any "IT" forum to see how many IT people are not only pushing / recommending winders tentanic but deploying it en masse in their places of work
these people have "papers" that say they know how to IT but they're either not smart enough to see through what's happening, or they're willing participants (co-conspirators) - by the book upgrade treadmill runners, "gotta have the latest MS offerings regardless of whether or not it's stealing private data"
I find the lack of configuration options disturbing !
I felt a great disturbance in the force.. as if millions of win 7 systems suddenly cried out in terror.
Post by Locutus deBorg on May 7, 2016 9:18:17 GMT -6
though it's not 100% clear generally you can tell the difference between those in IT who feel forced to run the treadmill from the IT who gleefully follow the upgrade treadmill like Borg drones going around assimilating everything in sight
when you get IT who are pushing tentanic like SR slaveman does you know you have a drone etc.
I find the lack of configuration options disturbing !
I felt a great disturbance in the force.. as if millions of win 7 systems suddenly cried out in terror.
Post by Bayer A.User on May 8, 2016 11:11:33 GMT -6
Stats go up,stats go down. Numbers can be crunched and published to give any desired results. Human psychology is more predictable and the whole 10 promotion is ALL about that. Last july it was about "Get while the gettin' is good" This july it will be about "Last Chance to get it for free"
Takes me back a few months when BF68 from the insider forum blathered on about how only a fool would pass up something for FREE ! Cows are good for free fertilizer but i don't want a dumptruck of it on my front lawn on July 4th weekend.
So now we have the final campaign to remind people 10 will actually CO$T MONEY this August ! $119 for Home, $199 for Pro versions.
Funny thing is I'd pay good money for it if it brought good value. For a whole operating system, a few hundred dollars is nothing. Why I remember back in the last century when computers AND their operating systems were insanely expensive.
On the other hand, if it doesn't even deliver the value of Windows 8.1, which I already have, please tell me again why I'd want it for free?
-Noel
Author of the "How to Configure the 'To Work' Options" series of Windows books. Not feeling enough love to do one for Windows 10.
Funny thing is I'd pay good money for it if it brought good value. For a whole operating system, a few hundred dollars is nothing. Why I remember back in the last century when computers AND their operating systems were insanely expensive.
On the other hand, if it doesn't even deliver the value of Windows 8.1, which I already have, please tell me again why I'd want it for free?
-Noel
I agree, real advances in hardware/software . Real purchase of the two. Reasonable purchase price. Win win situation. What has been going on since July29 of last year is a swindle. Free means nothing if the cure is worse than what ails you ! I lost my voice trying to explain that concept to numerous well intentioned visitors to the insider forum. Also, i went out of my way to help those who desperately wanted to roll back to 7 or 8.1 after a fubar 10 upgrade. The fanboyz just got in the way. Even srFreakman resigned them to just keep 10 and try an make the best of it.
So here is yet ANOTHER example of the free upgrade catch22. Stuck between Heaven n Hell. Can't move forward, can't roll back successfully to what once was.
One more month to go before the free upgrade offer ends! Here's how things stand now:
Windows 10 saw a real boost a couple months ago, but has now flattened off and and actually lost some ground again. During the same timeframe, Windows 8.1 has seen an increased decline, and is now solidly under Mac OS X. Meanwhile, Other is continuing to climb at the same rate it did before it fell. I wonder what it is...
Chrome's gains have slowed a bit, Internet Explorer has lost quite a bit, and Edge is continuing to gain at a much slower rate than Windows 10. In all, Microsoft's combined share has fallen to the point it is now solidly below that of Firefox. Yep...that should tell someone at Microsoft just how much Edge is appreciated by the market (not!). Meanwhile, over the last several months, Firefox, Safari, and Opera have been all holding very steady.
Last Edit: Jul 6, 2016 23:22:38 GMT -6 by Techie007
Microsoft, is Windows 10 the best you could do? Really? After promising to listen to our feedback, what a letdown!
<Rick> Good video. It's almost hard to believe that at one time Windows 98 was the resource hog, but even then, it still ran circles around what Windows 10 can do on today's modern hardware and look a heck of alot better doing it.
May 25, 2021 22:55:12 GMT -6
<Rick> As stated elsewhere, So much for the launch of Windows 11, "The Great Crash." Myself, I had a hard time getting into the site listed above, when I did get in, the video was partly done and then it crashed. There has been many other reports of crashing.
Jun 24, 2021 9:52:33 GMT -6
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<Rick> I see Microsoft has been very quick to pull down reports of site crashing regarding the Launch of Windows 11 on the Microsoft Insiders forum.
Jun 24, 2021 9:57:31 GMT -6
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<Rick> The rebroadcast is working okay.
Jun 24, 2021 11:00:25 GMT -6
<Rick> With reports of people being able to install the dev-edition of Windows 11 on machines not meeting spec, I thought I would give it a what-the-heck try. Lucky me, I'm caught in the downloading, doesn't meet spec, clearing, re-downloading loop on my machine!
Jul 2, 2021 7:08:46 GMT -6
<Rick> I've recently purchased a license for ArcaOS from www.arcanoae.com/ to play with. First impressions, it's still OS/2, but it now has a Linux twist to it.
Jul 2, 2021 7:32:53 GMT -6
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<dozrguy> laptop shit out and am stuck buying a new one. os win11 as fucked as win10 was?
Oct 2, 2021 12:56:10 GMT -6
<Rick> Let's see ..., my impression of Windows 11 is that it is a spruced up version of Windows 10 requiring a 64-bit processor plus a piece of security hardware that is less than 4 years old in order for it to run.
Oct 4, 2021 18:25:49 GMT -6
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<Rick> On the plus side, Microsoft is supposed to be supporting Windows 10 for some time to come for those of us still using systems with I7 or older processors.
Oct 4, 2021 18:44:35 GMT -6
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<dozrguy> i tried installing win10 om the 'shitout' pc this morning usung media creation. EPIC FAIL! went into an endless bootloop. win7 reinstalled just fine
Oct 21, 2021 11:23:38 GMT -6
<dozrguy> STILL so much bullshit and so little time for the kiddie ideas from the hill. My new laptop (MSI GE 11-UH461) would be an awesome "10" machine but because of Winblows I can only give it a "2"......wasted $3500
Oct 27, 2021 9:36:47 GMT -6
<Rick> Hello. Just checking in.
Mar 17, 2022 10:46:54 GMT -6
<isidroco> Each new w10 update adds >100000 useless files to \Windows\Servicing\LCU\Package_for_RollupFix... folders. Even in a SSD takes time to delete that stuff. In each version they manage to worsen stuff.
Mar 27, 2022 16:14:51 GMT -6
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<dozerguy> still traffic here?
Oct 9, 2022 17:32:44 GMT -6
<Rick> No, there does not seem to be very much traffic these days. I still check in from time to time.
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